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Warren "The Proxy" Hallam
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PostSubject: Vengevine and Devour   Vengevine and Devour EmptySun Apr 25, 2010 4:43 pm

I just want to know if I can play a creature, play another with devour, eating Vengevine, then immediately get it back.
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PostSubject: Re: Vengevine and Devour   Vengevine and Devour EmptySun Apr 25, 2010 7:12 pm

I doubt it, the card reads:

Haste. Whenever you cast a spell, if it's the second creature spell you cast this turn, you may return Vengevine from your graveyard to the battlefield.


Which to me implies it checks for conditions when it's cast and devour takes place when it enters the battlefield
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PostSubject: Re: Vengevine and Devour   Vengevine and Devour EmptySun Apr 25, 2010 10:23 pm

The wording makes me realize that I can cast Vengevine and attack with it. Then, it if dies, all I have to do is cast another creature spell and Vengevine pops back up same turn.

There are going to be some crazy decks with this guy. I really like some G/W shells I've seen involving Vengevine, Noble Heirarch, KotR, and the Mystic toolbox. Sort of a cross between Mythic Bant and Boss Naya, but with only G/W.
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PostSubject: Re: Vengevine and Devour   Vengevine and Devour EmptyTue Apr 27, 2010 9:33 am

Ya I'm pretty sure Warrens correct - since the creature with Devour would have to already enter the battlefield, and at that time Vengevine would still be alive, you wouldn't get him back.

Agree with you completely Sam, G/W vengevine decks are going to be amazing by the looks of things. One interesting tactic being discussed is using Kor Skyfisher as a vengevine enabler. You can cast Kor Skyfisher, return the same Skyfisher to your hand, then cast it again and return it to your hand again. It counts as casting 2 creatures, recurring all Vengevines in your graveyard, and you still have the Skyfisher to do it again next turn. All for 2WW.
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PostSubject: Re: Vengevine and Devour   Vengevine and Devour EmptyTue Apr 27, 2010 5:34 pm

Warren is right, but you can play a devour creature eating the Vengevine, then play another creature to get it back.

Sam, I hadn't thought of that, but its true. Seems like a good way to go. I guess I'm looking for two more Vengevines then.
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PostSubject: Re: Vengevine and Devour   Vengevine and Devour EmptyTue Apr 27, 2010 6:50 pm

I, also, am looking for a playset of vengevines.
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PostSubject: Re: Vengevine and Devour   Vengevine and Devour EmptyWed May 05, 2010 9:54 pm

Stupid Vengevines...
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